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Conversations with the Inspiring Nadine Selim and Michelle Spano

Today we’d like to introduce you to Nadine Selim and Michelle Spano.

Nadine and Michelle, please share your story with us. How did you get to where you are today?
Dating and relationships have changed dramatically over the past five years. From apps to social media influencers to “ghosting”, it seems that now more than ever the dating game is filled with so many hidden land mines. The idea behind Heartsprained initially started as a place for the two of us to just bitch about our own experiences and share the commonalities we had, despite one of us being married and one being in the very early stages of a new relationship. We just wanted to talk openly about our own hardships to counter the #mancrushmonday and #bossbitch and #wastehistime2019 messages we were seeing everywhere. It felt like we as women (and men too) have forgotten so many of the basics when it comes to relationships. We hoped that with open and honest dialogue we could not only show that no one is in it alone, but that there are healthy ways to navigate romance and breakups and everything in between.

We’re always bombarded by how great it is to pursue your passion, etc. – but we’ve spoken with enough people to know that it’s not always easy. Overall, would you say things have been easy for you?
Nothing worth doing is easy! We didn’t know the first thing about podcasting when we started. But with a little research and a whole lot of faith, we just started putting it out there and decided that we were ultimately going to start with a goal of just doing it. Once we started, the messages from our friends started coming in – how real our podcast was, how connected to it they felt, how appreciative they were to have found something they could relate to and laugh at. Then slowly but surely, the messages started coming in from strangers – people who just stumbled upon our show when searching “heartbreak” or “dating”. And those were the messages that really kept us going! It might sound corny, but hearing that our own heartbreaks and relationship mishaps have helped other people get through their own emotional turmoil makes it SO worth the effort, energy, and self-doubt that comes with creating content like this. We create small goals so we don’t feel overwhelmed, and we celebrate every single victory – no matter how small. It keeps us going!

What do you do, what do you specialize in, what are you known for, etc. What are you most proud of? What sets you apart from others?
We’re the founders of the Heartsprained podcast! It’s dedicated to all things fuckboys and feelings related. We talk about our experiences, the good and the bad, and we break down dating trends and give our own opinions on what works and what doesn’t. Sometimes, we don’t even have the answers – we just want to plant the seeds of thought in people’s minds so that maybe we can all figure it out together.

We both have full-time jobs in the digital marketing and brand strategy space, so we know the digital landscape really well and knew that we could do something raw and fun here. There seemed to be a lack of honesty surrounding what it means to be in a relationship in 2019. We’re all expected to just be okay with things like ghosting and situationships – and with things like social media, the complexities are endless. There are so many conflicting messages out there: don’t show you care, but don’t act indifferent. Don’t disappear but don’t text back right away. Be independent but make him/her feel like you need them. So, what side of this are we supposed to listen to?!

What we’re most proud of is that we aren’t afraid to say: we don’t know. And nobody knows. Because it’s different from person to person, relationship to relationship and the only author or influencer you need to listen to is yourself. We share our stories, as embarrassing as some of them are, in an effort to show that nobody knows what they’re doing and all we can do is use each lesson to better guide us to our own truth so that we can find fulfillment with and without partners. No one else is saying that! And it’s been the greatest compliment to hear from our listeners how raw they feel our podcast is because that’s what we aim for every single time.

Looking back on your childhood, what experiences do you feel played an important role in shaping the person you grew up to be?
We’ve both had to work hard for anything we’ve earned. Our parents made sure that we understood the value of hard work and of setting goals for yourselves and your projects. We were lucky to grow up in supportive homes, so we knew that even though it’s risky to put yourself out there, it’s always worth it to try and see the results.

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